If you can't find a physical meeting in your area, there are dozens of on-line groups utilizing the principles of Secular Organizations for Sobriety. The only thing people NEED to believe in order to get sober, is that they CAN get sober. Yikes. Placing conditions on recovery, by saying ‘you can’t be sober unless you believe / do XYZ’, is destructive to hope. Holly: Do you surrender it over at all? And be honest. This is hard to type. “Our atheists and agnostics widened our gateway so that all who suffer might pass through, regardless of their belief or lack of belief.”, -“Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age” Pg 167, 1957. For years and years, I was fighting tooth and nail, trying to control this damn thing, trying to wrestle it into submission, trying to moderate. "No God at the Bottom of a Glass" is an award-winning short … Laura and I are doing a HOME podcast episode on it (to air November 11th), and also, Alice and I are going to work together on a resource guide for atheists in recovery. I went to well over 50 meetings. Finding other alcoholics. Alice: I have heard the ‘Your higher power can be anything! I can only change me.
It was a privilege and honor to appear on John M.’s wonderful podcast, Sober Speak. ', It even contains the sentence, 'We must find a spiritual basis of life - or else.'. “There is room in A.A. for people of all shades of belief and non-belief.”, -”A Newcomer Asks” A.A. General Service Conference-approved literature. We take responsibility for it when we drink, so why can’t we pat ourselves on the back when we don’t drink? I followed all the suggestions. I tend to say, ‘OK, cool’ and move on. I was of the mind that I am so fucking open. This is the kind of ‘believe or you are sunk/an egomaniac/too smart for your own good’ attitude that really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I did. The concept of a higher power in A.A. does not require any particular system of belief.
I read The Big Book three times, and I was totally convinced that AA was the only way.
Thinking about drinking made up 90% of my thoughts. I tried faking it until I made it, although I felt deeply uncomfortable with the idea of saying I believed something I just didn’t. (+ 27 Tools. Having said that, here are a couple of things I would recommend. I don’t HAVE to understand or agree with the God stuff, just as they don’t HAVE to understand or agree with my atheist beliefs. The only way I can express the severity of this mistake is in her words. For more information about starting a meeting in your area, finding a meeting, or simply learning more about SOS and what it can do for you, please contact us! Hard to write.
Self-loathing, rather than ego, drove my drinking at the end. A doorknob, a dog, the universe’ speech so many times. Because I've had to face the depth of my own judgment. To not be put off by God stuff. But if I’m honest, I really don’t understand what you mean by handing over, because I don’t believe there is anything out there to hand over TO. How can we help you? The only time I take umbrage is when belief is presented as a pre-requisite to sobriety, or healthy recovery. I know you say you used AA for a bit, but if someone came up to you and said 'How do I get sober?' So I spent six months in the rooms. SOS founder, Jim Christopher has created many resources to help you get started, and to help you succeed, long term. The beauty of it is I don't HAVE to get it. I would encourage them to keep the tools that help them be sober, while discarding those that don’t, without fear. I had previously kept quiet about my atheism, for fear of rocking the boat. Your support helps us with the publication costs of literature, currently provided to those in recovery, free of charge, as well as facilities costs for local SOS meetings.
Due to the temporary closure of the Boise Unitarian Universalist Fellowship, we are moving our meeting online, or call +1 301 715 8592, Meeting ID 277 707 735. Is a good way for atheists to do work on themselves without the steps.
I wish I did believe in an unseen force for good, or my own Angel, or some Avatar-style pagan connectivity hidden in the trees. We believe different things and that’s OK. That means your generous contribution is tax-deductible. I don’t engage.
At first, this felt like a failure, but walking away from that battlefield has turned out to be the most rewarding thing I’ve ever done.
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I would tell them to not just walk, but RUN, from anyone who parrots the phrase ‘Get God or get drunk.’ However, in the same breath, I would also advise them to listen to what everyone has to say, even if they do mention God/Higher Power in every other sentence.
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